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Sharon Herrick's avatar

I am so glad you plan to do this regularly. The grief is pretty devastating. I think I'm stuck in the anger phase. Not a good place to be.

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Allyster Waters's avatar

I absolutely hear you. The rage is almost consuming, but I'm grateful that I have community to pull me back, and actions to purge the shit pot

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Lillian Benitez's avatar

Me too!! I’m angry every day

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Inferno 932's avatar

Powerful conversation. 5 stages of grief daily.

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Allyster Waters's avatar

I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!

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MVC's avatar

Thank you guys🫶🏽🫶🏽 for give us a place to breathe. Monday I cried also, and was nauseous watching them laugh knowing people are suffering.

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hands up red panda!'s avatar

Loved and needed this!! Thank you both! Very much looking forward to more to come

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Cathy Mirra's avatar

Great show u two🙌🏻🙌🏻

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Christian's avatar

You too are an awesome duo.

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Lisa Marie ✨💙🇺🇸💙✨'s avatar

So groovy 😁

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Karen Allison's avatar

Thank you so much for having this important conversation. I'm there with you all in this collective grief and feelings of being abused. And anger . . . fuck the fucking fucks!

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Emily Michaels's avatar

This resonated so much with me and I needed to hear this conversation. Thank you! Please keep doing this!

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Lynn Butson Schneider's avatar

Very excited about this, we all need a place to process our grief.

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Maggi C's avatar

wow, do i feel less insane after listening to y'all. THANK YOU for all the in your face uncomfortable honesty. Thank you for the family trauma parallels cuz i personally can't help seeing them playing out so clearly and haven't been hearing anyone speaking loudly about that component.

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LuaSol's avatar

Grief is not understood in this culture and society expects us to get over it.

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Phillip Chee's avatar

I missed this live. But just watched it. Thanks for this. Jared is correct, some people are living a delusion.

I started university during a Cold War and by the time I graduated the USSR had collapsed. When the US didn't de-moblize its armed forces around the world it dawned on me that those of us who raised the alarm about an ecological collapse were going to be ignored. The Gulf War just magnified my fears. I truly believed America was heading down the road to fascism if it didn't reckon with its internal contradictions.

Hence I shifted my intellectual focus from biology/ecology to politics, philosophy, history, and economics because I realized science itself was insufficient to deal with our many crises. Where it took me was back to the French Enlightenment and the ideals we have been fighting for since the Revolution of 1789 in France. I had hoped that others would feel the same, but sadly, there are very few of us in this movement.

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Christian's avatar

This was an excellent conversation. Connecting the trauma we're experiencing and have experienced to people's willingness to betray their neighors is so important.

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ayreÁnna  (“air-AHna”) Ross's avatar

thank you so. very. much for hosting these conversations. in preparing a series of articles here on Substack, i feel so grateful it popped into my feed. these are THE CONVERSATIONS we need to be having online, on the national level and, more importantly, on the local level. bless you both for speaking TRUTH... you are not alone. not. at. all.

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